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we look like at the fiscal cliff, the house republicans are meeting to chart a way forward. the senate passed legislation with overwhelming support this morning. the fiscal cliff legislation. when it made its way across the capitol to the republican controlled house, g.o.p. lawmakers immediately expressed concern about the lack of spending cuts. with the house majority leader publicly and bluntly stating he does not support the bill and the republicans are still at this time, as you look live behind the doors meeting at this hour, they are planning a vote series at some time. but we don't know when. it may include amending the senate bill and sending it back to the senate. meantime, house democrats are demanding a straight up-or-down vote on what came over from the senate. the late-breaking developments leaving the automatic spending cuts and tax increases tied to the fiscal cliff still in play right now. in a desperate race against a different clock, we have another free-flowing, fluid situation tonight. likely a lot of breaking news from capitol hill. we begin with fox tea
we look like at the fiscal cliff, the house republicans are meeting to chart a way forward. the senate passed legislation with overwhelming support this morning. the fiscal cliff legislation. when it made its way across the capitol to the republican controlled house, g.o.p. lawmakers immediately expressed concern about the lack of spending cuts. with the house majority leader publicly and bluntly stating he does not support the bill and the republicans are still at this time, as you look live...
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the first step in the fiscal cliff ought to be a republican discussion about what they were and were not willing to do. that did that seem to take place until earlier this week. the conversation was inconclusive. the one thing that has not happened yet, democrats have provided the votes on a lot of budget-related matters over the years but it was only after the tea party gave boehner permission to negotiate with the democrats -- those circumstances have to happen. we see you pushed as hard as you could. we now need to get something done. we're going to vote against this but work with the democrats. host: we have spoken to a number of republicans who say that the problem is spending. the government needs to cut spending. that is where we need to go in terms of reducing the deficit. guest: that is true, we need to cut spending, but there is some conflicting other couple issues. we to cut long-term spending on retirement programs to make them more in line with economic growth, not make them grow that much more quickly than economic growth. all the things that the republican house has pa
the first step in the fiscal cliff ought to be a republican discussion about what they were and were not willing to do. that did that seem to take place until earlier this week. the conversation was inconclusive. the one thing that has not happened yet, democrats have provided the votes on a lot of budget-related matters over the years but it was only after the tea party gave boehner permission to negotiate with the democrats -- those circumstances have to happen. we see you pushed as hard as...
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. >> we're falling over that fiscal cliff. >> republicans simply can't utter the word yes. >> the president is, i believe, slowing down the process. >> they have no strategy. they don't know what they want. >> kim kardashian is pregnant. >> a lot of democrats get mad at me. >> no deal is better than a bad deal. >> something has gone terribly wrong when the biggest threat to our american economy is our american congress. >> hats off to the president. >> as of this point is looks like i'm going to be spending new year's here in d.c. i can come to your house? is that what you're saying? >> happy new year! >>> grab your party hats, chill the bubbly. just eight hours to go. yes, we are all waiting to cue the confetti with hopes for a last-minute deal to avert the fiscal cliff. with sweeping tax hikes and spending cuts set to take effect at midnight, frantic negotiations are ongoing at this hour with the president teasing the prospect of a deal on at least part of the cliff just hours ago. >> it appears that an agreement to prevent this new year's tax hike is within sight, but it's not done. we w
. >> we're falling over that fiscal cliff. >> republicans simply can't utter the word yes. >> the president is, i believe, slowing down the process. >> they have no strategy. they don't know what they want. >> kim kardashian is pregnant. >> a lot of democrats get mad at me. >> no deal is better than a bad deal. >> something has gone terribly wrong when the biggest threat to our american economy is our american congress. >> hats off to the...
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to avert the "fiscal cliff." >> republicans aren't about to write a blank check for anything senate democrats put forward just because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. >> reporter: house members will return to capitol hill on sunday and could begin voting that night. they would have about 24 hours to approve a deal. adding to the urgency, treasury secretary timothy geithner warned congress that the nation's debt limit will be reached by december 31st and extraordinary measures would have to be taken to avoid default on the government's loans. danielle nottingham, cbs 5, washington. >> tomorrow's meeting with the president will be the first time president obama sat down with all four leaders since november 16th. and tonight, senator mitch mcconnell said that he was interested in hearing what the president proposes, elizabeth. >> sounds like right now there's a lot of finger- pointing but not a lot of problem-solving. >> reporter: exactly. and both sides again today, house speaker john boehner, he was saying that to his house republicans on the conference call he said, look
to avert the "fiscal cliff." >> republicans aren't about to write a blank check for anything senate democrats put forward just because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. >> reporter: house members will return to capitol hill on sunday and could begin voting that night. they would have about 24 hours to approve a deal. adding to the urgency, treasury secretary timothy geithner warned congress that the nation's debt limit will be reached by december 31st and...
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. >>> if bridging the partisan divide wasn't challenge enough, get ready because the fiscal cliff is far from a done deal. vice president joe biden and mitch mcconnell brokered a deal and, yes, it cleared the senate late last night. but no, the republican-controlled house of representatives hasn't voted on this yet. they are going to convene in about 30 minutes. house democratic caucus is meeting in less than an hour while the house gop leaders are meeting at 1:00 p.m. eastern time. both parties undoubtedly laying the groundwork for the fiscal cliff showdown that will unfold between its 435 house members. one of those members is democratic congressman from michigan. he's kind enough to join me. thank you for being with us today. first of all, if you could get me up to speed on the decision to make a decision v you heard anything about the possibility there might be a vote today with your members? >> i haven't heard directly. i think there will be. i think the vote last night in the senate set the stage. it was overwhelming. we're going to have a caucus democrats and republicans will
. >>> if bridging the partisan divide wasn't challenge enough, get ready because the fiscal cliff is far from a done deal. vice president joe biden and mitch mcconnell brokered a deal and, yes, it cleared the senate late last night. but no, the republican-controlled house of representatives hasn't voted on this yet. they are going to convene in about 30 minutes. house democratic caucus is meeting in less than an hour while the house gop leaders are meeting at 1:00 p.m. eastern time....
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cliff, however, republicans are going to have to acquiesce, we will have some tax hikes, i think probably 750,000 and above i think that's the number, but what republicans are holding back the debt ceiling debate and cutti cutti cutting entitlement programs and they're going to use that later in the year. >> kelly: mark, the final word. >> if angela's prediction sort of come through-- and i hope it does, the republicans and senate negotiate, and republicans and congress will be responsible for the largest tax increst on all americans in modern american history and that would be unfortunate and soon talk about obama tax cuts when we talk about the middle class america. >> kelly: and the 113th congress coming into office in january. and angela and mark, thank you for sharing insights on this tough, tough situation for us. thank you. >> thank you, kelly. >> kelly: thank you. >> to a fox news alert. new details on the deadly plane crash out of russia. police now say that four crew members are dead, and four others have been injured after an airliner landing into one of moscow's international
cliff, however, republicans are going to have to acquiesce, we will have some tax hikes, i think probably 750,000 and above i think that's the number, but what republicans are holding back the debt ceiling debate and cutti cutti cutting entitlement programs and they're going to use that later in the year. >> kelly: mark, the final word. >> if angela's prediction sort of come through-- and i hope it does, the republicans and senate negotiate, and republicans and congress will be...
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it sounds like, you know, i've read that this fiscal cliff thing is too much austerity so quickly. at one point. so what is the worst case scenario at this point? >> well, austerity works both ways. austerity for the public sector is stimulus for the private sector. it's the same money, you're just shifting it from one pocket to another pocket. spending cuts would be very reassuring to the markets. you're always hearing if government spending is cut all of a sudden all that money disappears from the economy. that's not correct. that money that has to be cycled into the private sector. that's a good thing. so austerity in terms of shrinking the size of government, or the growth of government, would be very, very healthy for the economy. austerity in europe is something elsewhere, because of the euro situation, you have to cut people's wages, to make those countries competitive again. that's a completely different issue. austerity in terms of reversing this tremendous increase we've had in government spending over the last four years, we've gone from 2.9 trillion to 3.8 trillion in s
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the leadership for being on vacation as the nation teeters on the edge of the so-called fiscal cliff. house republicans are holding a conference call from their districts that should be starting right about now we are told. steny hoyer urged them to come back to work and find a solution. >> i hope they can conclude as we have concluded and i speak for leader pelosi, myself and all of the democratic leadership that we must come back as soon as possible to work together to reach a compromise to assure that we are address the importance legislation that is still pending in this congress. a congress i believe is the least productive, most con front asianal and least compromising congress in which i have concerned and i've been here since 1981. >> that's saying a lot. at this point, it's not clear whether that conference call we mentioned with the house republicans, it's not clear whether that call meant to give members the 48-hour notice to get back to work. with five days before the spending cuts and tax hikes to take effect, we learned today that negotiators are talking. the white hous
the leadership for being on vacation as the nation teeters on the edge of the so-called fiscal cliff. house republicans are holding a conference call from their districts that should be starting right about now we are told. steny hoyer urged them to come back to work and find a solution. >> i hope they can conclude as we have concluded and i speak for leader pelosi, myself and all of the democratic leadership that we must come back as soon as possible to work together to reach a...
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cliff with republican leaders john boehner and mitch mcconnell and democratic leaders harry reid and nancy pelosi. returning to capitol hill mitch mcconnell went to the senate floor saying he is optimistic there can be a deal. he believes it can come by sunday afternoon, and at that point he would go back to the president with whatever it is he and reid are agreeing to. he said's optimistic that the next 24 hours are critical. however, tennessee senator bob cochran says even if a deal does get done don't expect too much. >> we're goakd up with a small kick the can down the road bill that creates another fiscal cliff to deal with this fiscal cliff. >> the president did say deja vu all over again. if corker is right, we are going to say some of the same machinations we've seen before. if it doesn't happen, the president wants that up or down vote on his plan. >> remember night, monday night is new year's eve when it all could go bad. >> and happy new year to you. >> thank you, gary. >>> and economists are warning that going over that fiscal cliff could pull us all back into recession.
cliff with republican leaders john boehner and mitch mcconnell and democratic leaders harry reid and nancy pelosi. returning to capitol hill mitch mcconnell went to the senate floor saying he is optimistic there can be a deal. he believes it can come by sunday afternoon, and at that point he would go back to the president with whatever it is he and reid are agreeing to. he said's optimistic that the next 24 hours are critical. however, tennessee senator bob cochran says even if a deal does get...
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i think they'll tell you another story. >> fellow republicans discuss the fiscal cliff deal. sheila jackson from texas was in the room with the democrats. she joins me now. congresswoman. happy new year. >> happy new year, chris, to you, and happy new year to mesh. >> well, i know you ducked out of the meeting, but can you give us a sense of what it was like in that room? >> i certainly can. first of all, let me thank president obama and vice president biden working as a team on behalf of the american people and for showing the extent of patience that they've had to show over these last couple of months and certainly since august of 2011. there's about an a great deal of patience, and i think as the meeting has begun with the vice president he was appropriately respectful of how challenging an effort this was, but more importantly, how important this was for the american people and the trust that was given to him by the president and leader reid to engage with jord leader mcconnell who had heretofore, if you will, joined with the chorus of naysayers not wanting to do figure.
i think they'll tell you another story. >> fellow republicans discuss the fiscal cliff deal. sheila jackson from texas was in the room with the democrats. she joins me now. congresswoman. happy new year. >> happy new year, chris, to you, and happy new year to mesh. >> well, i know you ducked out of the meeting, but can you give us a sense of what it was like in that room? >> i certainly can. first of all, let me thank president obama and vice president biden working as a...
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fiscal cliff talks. critical time, really in the next hour or so, whether or not we'll have this deal. diane? >> rich if they do amend it and send it to the senate. the senate is scheduled to return at noon tomorrow. thursday at noon there is new congress this whole thing expires. how realistic they get something done and they do amend it and send it to the senate? >> exactly the senate would have to take it up tomorrow. one you play with the proposal, once remove smallest piece of this, democrats say republicans are going back on their deal. senate minority leader mitch mcconnell and vice president biden negotiated details. senators feel if they change it, they are going back on the deal. republicans in the house said they never signed off on the deal, it was between the senate minority leader mitch mcconnell and the vice president and should be able to work its will and change the proposal. diane, as you pointed out they have to get something done through both houses of congress by january 3rd at noon.
fiscal cliff talks. critical time, really in the next hour or so, whether or not we'll have this deal. diane? >> rich if they do amend it and send it to the senate. the senate is scheduled to return at noon tomorrow. thursday at noon there is new congress this whole thing expires. how realistic they get something done and they do amend it and send it to the senate? >> exactly the senate would have to take it up tomorrow. one you play with the proposal, once remove smallest piece of...
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. >> gregg: congress is not only facing a fiscal cliff, it's up a dairy clarify, if you will. the current farm bill is set to expire on new year's day. if an extension of that is not passed, the farm policies would revert to laws back to 1949 and cost of milk, that could skyrocket. back then the government used a formula to calculate dairy prices that is much more expensive than it is today. one option said to be on the table is short term extension that would prevent milk prices from rising. >> arthel: to other stories. a judge ordering a psychiatric evaluation for a woman suspected of shoving a man off a new york public is way platform. he was arraigned last night on murder and hate crime. she confessed to pushing a man in front of a moving train telling them, i hindus and muslims. co-worker was was behind due. >> gregg: two missing boys from georgia have been found in texas an amber alert was issued, ages nine and seven when they didn't come back from a visit from their dad on wednesday. somebody recognized the trio and caught up with them in austin. now their father is fac
. >> gregg: congress is not only facing a fiscal cliff, it's up a dairy clarify, if you will. the current farm bill is set to expire on new year's day. if an extension of that is not passed, the farm policies would revert to laws back to 1949 and cost of milk, that could skyrocket. back then the government used a formula to calculate dairy prices that is much more expensive than it is today. one option said to be on the table is short term extension that would prevent milk prices from...
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re, ♪ ♪ >> this country is about to take a plunge over the fiscal cliff. who is really to blame? watcjomg this one. >> president has a decision to make. he can support these measures or be responsible for reckless spending and the largest tax hike in american history. >> the republicans in the house have decide to do rundown an alley that has no exit. >> republicans aren't about to write a blank check or anything senate democrats put forward just because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. >> every time we come to a solution it was a year and a half ago in the summer right now the republicans walk away. >> don't automatically assume the president wants to cut a deal. i think he wants to wait to see if he gets blamed for it before he starts really negotiating. >> nobody can get 100 percent of what they want. this is not a contest between parties in terms of who looks good and who doesn't. >>> the real consequences to what we do. >> fox news contributor and democratic pollster doug sho/* schoen is here. >> the latest poll indicates that the country 44 percent blame congress
re, ♪ ♪ >> this country is about to take a plunge over the fiscal cliff. who is really to blame? watcjomg this one. >> president has a decision to make. he can support these measures or be responsible for reckless spending and the largest tax hike in american history. >> the republicans in the house have decide to do rundown an alley that has no exit. >> republicans aren't about to write a blank check or anything senate democrats put forward just because we find...
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to avert the fiscal cliff. and nbc's white house correspondent peter alexander joins me now. republicans saying, oh, the president is having a deal. the president is saying no. harry reid is saying no. what do we know? >> i guess we know very little. we know this isn't going to be litigated in the mead ra. but the white house wants to make it very clear that there is no new proposal on the way to its hill today despite the comments from senator scott brown and others today, a senior administration telling me a short time ago, and i quote, there is no proposal being sent up today. i think that does it pretty emphatically. that was the language that came from harry reid just a short time ago. the president is here. we have reached out to aides, as well. they say they have no information that he will be speaking publicly today. we also know as you see him arriving only a matter of hours ago that the vice president, joe biden, has been meeting in the white house, as well. but at this point, that's where things stan
to avert the fiscal cliff. and nbc's white house correspondent peter alexander joins me now. republicans saying, oh, the president is having a deal. the president is saying no. harry reid is saying no. what do we know? >> i guess we know very little. we know this isn't going to be litigated in the mead ra. but the white house wants to make it very clear that there is no new proposal on the way to its hill today despite the comments from senator scott brown and others today, a senior...
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where is the house republican conference now in their mentality on making a deal on the fiscal cliff, and is there reason for optimism if something does get produced from the senate sometime today? >> you know, i think there is reason for optimism, first of all, because, chris, you have to remember, we actually passed as part of our budget in the spring an alternative to this possess. we did another such bill in august, and then before we left prayer to plan b, we passed a third bill, so we're glad to see the senate move, and when they do, we'll have something to sink our teeth into. we might not necessarily accept it as-is. there will be some amending, i suppose, lots of debate, but i think that the house is ready to act. the difference between a senate proposal now and plan b last week is that this time we will not need to pass it only on republican votes. we'll have democrats who will be moving forward, and so i think you'll get a vote. >> let me follow-up on that, because i think it's an important point. john boehner's speakership took a hit. you can debate how big or how small. h
where is the house republican conference now in their mentality on making a deal on the fiscal cliff, and is there reason for optimism if something does get produced from the senate sometime today? >> you know, i think there is reason for optimism, first of all, because, chris, you have to remember, we actually passed as part of our budget in the spring an alternative to this possess. we did another such bill in august, and then before we left prayer to plan b, we passed a third bill, so...
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we're actually over the fiscal cliff. so, now it's up to the republican-controlled house to pull us back. here's what happened while you were sleeping, or sleeping or dg else. a deal crafted by vice president joe biden and minority leader mitch mcconnell passed the senate by a margin of 89-8. that vote wrapped up after 2:00 a.m. eastern time. the house takes up this plan later on this morning. no telling on how that will turn out if the house approves, the deal will estimate a generated $600 billion over the next ten years this is how senate leaders of both sides of the aisle are assessing the measure. >> i have said all along, the most important priority is protecting middle class families. >> this suhouldn't be the model for how we do things. but we can say we've done some good for the country. >> bush era tax cuts will remain in place for individuals earning less than 400,000, couples earning less than 450,000. unemployment benefits for 2 million americans would be extended for a year. the alternative minimum tax perma
we're actually over the fiscal cliff. so, now it's up to the republican-controlled house to pull us back. here's what happened while you were sleeping, or sleeping or dg else. a deal crafted by vice president joe biden and minority leader mitch mcconnell passed the senate by a margin of 89-8. that vote wrapped up after 2:00 a.m. eastern time. the house takes up this plan later on this morning. no telling on how that will turn out if the house approves, the deal will estimate a generated $600...
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"off the fiscal cliff, this fall is really going to hurt." that's what they said. >>> up next, it used to be a favorite republican pastime, going after hillary clinton. it hasn't happened for a while, of course, but what if she does run for president? how could they resist doing it again? you're watching "hardball," the place for politics. she knows you like no one else. and you wouldn't have it any other way. but your erectile dysfunction - you know, that could be a question of blood flow. cialis tadalafil for daily use helps you be ready anytime the moment's right. you can be more confident in your ability to be ready. and the same cialis is the only daily ed tablet approved to treat ed and symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently or urgently. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and medications, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sexual activity. do not take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain, as this may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. do not drink alcohol in excess with cialis. side effects ma
"off the fiscal cliff, this fall is really going to hurt." that's what they said. >>> up next, it used to be a favorite republican pastime, going after hillary clinton. it hasn't happened for a while, of course, but what if she does run for president? how could they resist doing it again? you're watching "hardball," the place for politics. she knows you like no one else. and you wouldn't have it any other way. but your erectile dysfunction - you know, that could be...
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a lot of people speak passionately, i assume about the fiscal cliff before the republican convene in a smaller group. >> reporter: the house convened at 12:00 and what happens when the house convenes, every day they have what's called one-minute speeches. this is one of the opportunities for members of congress to come and say their peace and say what's on their mind and they have one minute. i'm sure what is on all members' mind at this point how they feel about the fiscal cliff deal. >> looking at live pictures of that taking place there. we'll bring you back to get behind the scenes from the gym but also from the floor and whether or not there's anything that's going to come of these meetings, whether or not there's a vote on the house side. there were eight senators who voted against that compromise measure, the opposition coming from both parties yet senate democrats tom harkin, tom carper and michael bennet voting no. so did mike lee, richard shelby, rand paul, chuck %a#zgrassley, o rubio, a tiny minority. the senate passed the fiscal cliff deal with an overwhelming bipartisan
a lot of people speak passionately, i assume about the fiscal cliff before the republican convene in a smaller group. >> reporter: the house convened at 12:00 and what happens when the house convenes, every day they have what's called one-minute speeches. this is one of the opportunities for members of congress to come and say their peace and say what's on their mind and they have one minute. i'm sure what is on all members' mind at this point how they feel about the fiscal cliff deal....
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what seems to be a bitter stalemate between democrats and republicans on the fiscal cliff, we have learned of a bit of change this evening with the negotiations. for one, we have learned that the senate will reconvene tomorrow at 11:00 a.m. that means no decision tonight. we have also learned senator mitch mcconnell, the republican minority leader, has had conversations directly with vice president biden. mcconnell had been working with senate majority leader harry reid, but he and biden have gotten things done when working together in the past. can they do it now? let's go to dana bash. dana, what do you think? is it promising? can they go it now? >> reporter: well, let's start there. it certainly has happened before between these two men, and it's happened before when democrats on capitol hill are either split or have gotten, frankly, just too frustrated with the republican counterparts to have conversations to be able to find bipartisan agreement. these are the two men who negotiated an extension of the bush era tax cuts for two years. that happened two years ago when republicans had a
what seems to be a bitter stalemate between democrats and republicans on the fiscal cliff, we have learned of a bit of change this evening with the negotiations. for one, we have learned that the senate will reconvene tomorrow at 11:00 a.m. that means no decision tonight. we have also learned senator mitch mcconnell, the republican minority leader, has had conversations directly with vice president biden. mcconnell had been working with senate majority leader harry reid, but he and biden have...
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. >>> the senate is scheduled to get back to work and avoid the fiscal cliff 45 minutes from now. president obama will be watching with the rest of country for a deal to be hammered out. he thinks republican leaders need to bend. >> congress has not been able to get this stuff done not because democrats in congress don't want to go ahead and cooperate but because i think it's been very hard for speaker boehner and republican leader mcconnell to accept the fact that taxes on the wealthiest americans should go up a little bit and as part of an overall deficit reduction package. >> i'm joined by congresswoman barbara lee a democrat from california. good to see you. good morning. >> good to see you. glad to be with you. >> let me give you the republican perspective. it is that some indications they are willing to give on taxes whether 400 or 450,000, that yesterday they floated this idea of changing social security. they've backed off on that. they apparently are willing to give on some of these estate taxes. the democrats are willing to give on some of the estate taxes. but what the
. >>> the senate is scheduled to get back to work and avoid the fiscal cliff 45 minutes from now. president obama will be watching with the rest of country for a deal to be hammered out. he thinks republican leaders need to bend. >> congress has not been able to get this stuff done not because democrats in congress don't want to go ahead and cooperate but because i think it's been very hard for speaker boehner and republican leader mcconnell to accept the fact that taxes on the...
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cliff is going to hit soon and this is the best deal we are quite yet. after that comment on the house republicans and house democrats that will need both of them to come up and vote for this thing, to get through on the house. the schedule is still a little murky. we don't know when the senate will vote on this. it will likely go first here in the senate, and then it is up to the house and the pressure is beginning to get signoff on this thing. >> that seems to be the big question. we have the video of the podium which is where we hope to get some kind of statement from someone in the senate. but it's the house leadership, nancy pelosi will have to sell liberal democrats on the idea. but eventually having to take place and then of course john boehner would have to sell house republicans on the fact that there may not be extension of cuts and they are going to be tax increases. >> exactly. and if you think of the alternative here, if liberal democrats don't like where the threshold is, they sit on their hands and get what they want and more and more. and
cliff is going to hit soon and this is the best deal we are quite yet. after that comment on the house republicans and house democrats that will need both of them to come up and vote for this thing, to get through on the house. the schedule is still a little murky. we don't know when the senate will vote on this. it will likely go first here in the senate, and then it is up to the house and the pressure is beginning to get signoff on this thing. >> that seems to be the big question. we...
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will senate republicans embrace the latest framework for a fiscal cliff deal? also how failure to get a fiscal cliff deal could lead to a mortgage rate free fall. "piles of money" coming up. ♪ [ male announcer ] how could switchgrass in arntina, change engineering in dubai, aluminum production in south africa, and the aerospace industry in the u.s.? at t. rowe price, we undetand the connections of a comple global economy. it's just one reason over 75% of our mutual funds beat their 10-year lipper average. t. rowe price. invest with cfidence. request a prospectus or summary prospectus with investment information, risks, fees and expenses to read and consider carefully before investing. adam: in the mid of all the fiscal cliff frustration there is actually a silver lining. if your knew year's resolution to purchase a house you may be in luck. on again, off again deal may be pushing mortgage rates even lower. average fixed year is.35%, that is according to freddie mac. that may not be the bottom. with me team invements president and founder. we appreciate you be
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democrats and republicans are unable to make a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. let's get political insight on the recent setback on the fiscal cliff discussions. i'm joined by richard good stein and robert trainm. a former communications director for rick santorum. talks have broken down for the moment. what do you think is going on behind closed doors right now on capitol hill? >> i think a lot more is going on than we know. i think the staff as well as perhaps maybe leader mcconnell and vice president biden and the administration are probably trying to hammer out some type of a deal here. i know there is consternation about the chain cpi. the president said even though this is unpopular i am willing to talk a little bit about chain cpi. now that the president said this let's talk about this and try to compromise here. >> there have been several phone conversations today between senator reid and president obama. what is your take on the white house involvement? >> well, look, obviously the white house is pivotal here. i mean, the president litigated all of thes
democrats and republicans are unable to make a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. let's get political insight on the recent setback on the fiscal cliff discussions. i'm joined by richard good stein and robert trainm. a former communications director for rick santorum. talks have broken down for the moment. what do you think is going on behind closed doors right now on capitol hill? >> i think a lot more is going on than we know. i think the staff as well as perhaps maybe leader mcconnell and...
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what is the threshold that republicans are willing to take to avert the fiscal cliff. there's their 400,000. so everyone who makes $400,000 their taxes would stay the same. would that be acceptable. if there is no deal to be reached we do know that harry reid will try to move forward on monday with the bill for those making $250,000 or below. so that's what we need to see how it will work there. there are types of sweeteners they can do. mitch mcconnell is a tough place and this is the underreported part of the story. he has to figure out a deal that gets through the senate and doesn't make john boehner look too bad in the house and there are a lot of conservatives in the house that don't want to do any type of deal that would raise taxes on anybody even though they'll go up on the entire country the first tax hike in 20 years after monday night. >> and one would also assume that mitch mcconnell would have to back a grant, he could face a primary fight if this thing -- >> you touched on one of the great sub plots of these entire negotiations is personal things that boe
what is the threshold that republicans are willing to take to avert the fiscal cliff. there's their 400,000. so everyone who makes $400,000 their taxes would stay the same. would that be acceptable. if there is no deal to be reached we do know that harry reid will try to move forward on monday with the bill for those making $250,000 or below. so that's what we need to see how it will work there. there are types of sweeteners they can do. mitch mcconnell is a tough place and this is the...
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. >>> breaking news, house republicans have just wrapped up a meeting to discuss the fiscal cliff deal worked out by vice president joe biden and senate m minority leader mitch mcconnell. the deal which passed overnight will see income taxes rise on individuals making over $450,000 a year, and families making over $550,000 a year. let's listen in now as house democrats speak. >> caucus meeting which -- in which the vice president not only roused the entire membership, but also gave us a very thoughtful and detailed explanation of what's gone on, and how it was that he and the president working with the democratic and republican leaders in both houses were able to come together on this compromise. we first want to say thank you to the vice president for being so gracious. quite honestly, so frank in his conversation with us in explaining as much as he could about what's transpired over the last several weeks. we now are waiting to hear from our republican colleagues, whether or not they want to do what the senate did in a very bipartisan fashion and give the men people an opportunity to
. >>> breaking news, house republicans have just wrapped up a meeting to discuss the fiscal cliff deal worked out by vice president joe biden and senate m minority leader mitch mcconnell. the deal which passed overnight will see income taxes rise on individuals making over $450,000 a year, and families making over $550,000 a year. let's listen in now as house democrats speak. >> caucus meeting which -- in which the vice president not only roused the entire membership, but also...
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in that immediate action is needed to avert falling off the fiscal cliff. he says that he is optmistic for an agreement, but neither republicans or democrats will get 100% of what they want. earlier today, the president met with congressional leaders at the white house. a closed-door meeting, here is what the president said just a short time ago. >> we are going to construct a discussion with senate and house leadership of how to prevent this tax hike on the middle class. i am optimistic that we may still be able to reach an agreement that can pass both houses in time. senator reid and senator mcconnell are working on such an agreement as we speak we want congress taking up that issue now. in the mentime, the war on tracking, lisa jackson announced her plan to quit january 31. leading to questions as to who obama will choose to replace her. taking a more realistic approach. let ask john hiatt meiste >> with us tonight we go to john hiatt meister. we want to focus on tracking. doyou thiink a new epa chief old crackdown on tracking? or will they move ahead wi
in that immediate action is needed to avert falling off the fiscal cliff. he says that he is optmistic for an agreement, but neither republicans or democrats will get 100% of what they want. earlier today, the president met with congressional leaders at the white house. a closed-door meeting, here is what the president said just a short time ago. >> we are going to construct a discussion with senate and house leadership of how to prevent this tax hike on the middle class. i am optimistic...
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off the fiscal cliff, this fall is really going to hurt. that's what they said. >>> up next, it used to be a favorite republican pastime, going after hillary clinton. it hasn't happened for a while, of course, but what if she does run for president? how could they resist doing it again? you're watching haum, the place for politics. when you have diabetes... your doctor will say get smart about your weight. that's why there's glucerna hunger smart shakes. they have carb steady, with carbs that digest slowly to help minimize blood sugar spikes. [ male announcer ] glucerna hunger smart. a smart way to help manage hunger and diabetes. mine was earned off vietnam in 1968. over the south pacific in 1943. i got mine in iraq, 2003. usaa auto insurance is often handed down from generation to generation. because it offers a superior level of protection, and because usaa's commitment to serve the military, veterans and their families is without equal. begin your legacy, get an auto insurance quote. usaa. we know what it means to serve. if by blessed y
off the fiscal cliff, this fall is really going to hurt. that's what they said. >>> up next, it used to be a favorite republican pastime, going after hillary clinton. it hasn't happened for a while, of course, but what if she does run for president? how could they resist doing it again? you're watching haum, the place for politics. when you have diabetes... your doctor will say get smart about your weight. that's why there's glucerna hunger smart shakes. they have carb steady, with...
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these are the people that republicans have used as pawns in the fiscal cliff debate. earlier this week, senate minority leader mitch mcconnell demanded spending cuts to offset the estimated. $30 billion cost of extending the federal unemployment insurance program for another year. mcconnell was elected to serve the people of kentucky. so how do mcconnell and junior senator rand paul justify letting federal unemployment benefits expire for 24,000 people in their state? how can senator marco rubio allow nearly 119,000 unemployed floridians to be cut off? senators john mccain and jon kyl should be fighting for the 28,000 people who would be affected in arizona. it's not clear if they will. and the list goes on and on. unemployment benefits are vital to the economic security of millions of americans, and the continued recovery of the u.s. economy as a whole. this should not be a bipartisan issue. let's bring in john nichols, washington correspondent for "the nation" magazine. brother nichols, who will be most affected if no deal is reached. not the very reach who can affo
these are the people that republicans have used as pawns in the fiscal cliff debate. earlier this week, senate minority leader mitch mcconnell demanded spending cuts to offset the estimated. $30 billion cost of extending the federal unemployment insurance program for another year. mcconnell was elected to serve the people of kentucky. so how do mcconnell and junior senator rand paul justify letting federal unemployment benefits expire for 24,000 people in their state? how can senator marco...
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you say, we, republican are not trying to solve the fiscal cliff. we're trying to solve the debt and deficit. can you explain that? >> sure can. yeah, the white house has been very focused on what do we have to do to just get past the fiscal cliff. let's get over this bump and keep spend and keep going. in the house we're actually trying to solve the debt and deficit. let me illustrate this. we have a trillion dollars in deficit spending last four years. president says let's go back to the clinton levels of taxation. if we went back to the clinton levels of taxation we're still double the highest bush era of deficit spending still because spending was accelerated so much in 2009 and 2010. we're trying to bring the spending levels back down. on the contrary if we just brought the spending levels down to the clinton level spending instead of tax level going up to clinton level of tax it is would solve this. we're trying to solve the debt and deficit. we're trying to say how do we get out of debt. the president is saying let's get past the fiscal cliff
you say, we, republican are not trying to solve the fiscal cliff. we're trying to solve the debt and deficit. can you explain that? >> sure can. yeah, the white house has been very focused on what do we have to do to just get past the fiscal cliff. let's get over this bump and keep spend and keep going. in the house we're actually trying to solve the debt and deficit. let me illustrate this. we have a trillion dollars in deficit spending last four years. president says let's go back to...
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cliff and the republican haves the boehner rule to ask for a dollar in cut for every dollar the limit is extended. the debt limit being money that we have paid and obligation to pay. and so, if democrats and republicans aren't come together now, and a month and a half from now republicans come back to the table and say we need more cuts, i don't know what the president is going to look to to cut. seems like a complicated mess that they have on their hands and the more clarity they get now, the easier it's going to be in a few weeks from now. if they get a small deal that leaves no path forward on the bigger issues i think that we'll be here in a month and a half talking about the same things. >> thank you so much, meredith and david. >> thank you. >> thank you. >>> a huge winter storm packed with snow and sleet out of the midwest and heading towards the eastern seaboard. blizzard warnings from arkansas to illinois. wintry mix is expected in the northeast. it's the same storm system that sparked a tornado outbreak in the south yesterday. these pictures of mobile, alabama. the twister c
cliff and the republican haves the boehner rule to ask for a dollar in cut for every dollar the limit is extended. the debt limit being money that we have paid and obligation to pay. and so, if democrats and republicans aren't come together now, and a month and a half from now republicans come back to the table and say we need more cuts, i don't know what the president is going to look to to cut. seems like a complicated mess that they have on their hands and the more clarity they get now, the...
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>> i think there's a chance he will br just right enough to get something done on the fiscal cliff. we saw the president this harch meet with the bipartisan leadership in congress. remember the republicans because of the intransigence we talked about their caucus sought the speaker es plan for a plan b. that weakened the republican negotiating position . and now the president has maximum leverage because the tax cuts are due to expire by the end of the year. mitch mcconnell said he was hopeful and optimistic that they could get a deal that they could pass. the reason that that could happen if mitch mcconnell lets it happen, john boehner may feel no option but to put that on the floor for pass adge whether or not most republicans are for it. that would be the realization of that -- >> wouldn't that violate the principle that would have govern the policy that nothing wowlingd pass unless the yort of the majority support it. >> it would violate the principle. some democrats think that mitch mcconnell is ready to force john boehner's hand. we know the republicans are going to lose the f
>> i think there's a chance he will br just right enough to get something done on the fiscal cliff. we saw the president this harch meet with the bipartisan leadership in congress. remember the republicans because of the intransigence we talked about their caucus sought the speaker es plan for a plan b. that weakened the republican negotiating position . and now the president has maximum leverage because the tax cuts are due to expire by the end of the year. mitch mcconnell said he was...
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"off the fiscal cliff, this fall is really going to hurt." that's what they said. >>> up next, it used to be a favorite republican pastime, going after hillary clinton. it hasn't happened for a while, of course, but what if she does run for president? how could they resist doing it again? you're watching "hardball," the place for politics. check out my new treadmill app. pretty sweet, huh? cute. but don't you have any apps on your phone that can make your life easier? who do you think i am, quicken loans? at quicken loans, we'll provide you with myql mobile. this amazingly useful app allows you to take pictures of your mortgage documents using an iphone or android smart phone... so you can easily send them to us. one more way quicken loans is engineered to amaze. ooh, la-la! >>> i'm craig melvin. we have some breaking news at this hour. nbc news laz learned president obama will host a meeting tomorrow afternoon with congressional leadership from both sides of the aisle. house this really a concussion -- >> you mean john bolton. >> i feel if s
"off the fiscal cliff, this fall is really going to hurt." that's what they said. >>> up next, it used to be a favorite republican pastime, going after hillary clinton. it hasn't happened for a while, of course, but what if she does run for president? how could they resist doing it again? you're watching "hardball," the place for politics. check out my new treadmill app. pretty sweet, huh? cute. but don't you have any apps on your phone that can make your life...
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to avoid the fiscal cliff and deal with the deficit in a balanced way. in fact, as we know, republicans like tom cole, a very conservative member from oklahoma, and others have said that that approach makes sense. and yet the speaker refuses to allow a vote on that proposal. and so allow democracy to work and so far unfortunately, speaker boehner has been held captive with the tea party wing of the republicans in the house, which voted down his own proposal just about a week ago, because he said, well, we should ask folks making over $1 million to pay more. his caucus said no. so what we're saying is, let the whole house, democrats and republicans, vote on the president's proposal. let democracy work its will. worst case scenario is that would be defeated. but you don't know until you hold a vote in the house of representatives. that's how democracy is supposed to work. it's not supposed to allow a small, extreme group within the republican caucus to dictate terms to the country. >> there is some indication from the hill that the call to bring vice presi
to avoid the fiscal cliff and deal with the deficit in a balanced way. in fact, as we know, republicans like tom cole, a very conservative member from oklahoma, and others have said that that approach makes sense. and yet the speaker refuses to allow a vote on that proposal. and so allow democracy to work and so far unfortunately, speaker boehner has been held captive with the tea party wing of the republicans in the house, which voted down his own proposal just about a week ago, because he...
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just seven hours now until the nation goes over the fiscal cliff. and after weeks of negotiations and public posturing, democrats and republicans have reached an agreement on tax rates in their negotiations. let me tell you what we know at this hour. the deal is said to raise $600 billion in revenue over the next decade through a series of tax increases on the wealthiest americans. th bush era tax rates would be text ended for all single americans with incomes below $400,000 and couples with income below 45000$450,000. all income above that would be tacked at 39 pittsburgh.6%. the deal is said to include a permanent fix for the alternative minimum tax and it extends unemployment insurance for another year for 2 million americans. this was huge for the democrats. speaking at the white house in front of a group of middle class americans just a few hours ago, the president urged congress to act immediately. >> for now our most immediate priority is to stop taxes going up for middle class families starting tomorrow. i think that is a modest goal that we
just seven hours now until the nation goes over the fiscal cliff. and after weeks of negotiations and public posturing, democrats and republicans have reached an agreement on tax rates in their negotiations. let me tell you what we know at this hour. the deal is said to raise $600 billion in revenue over the next decade through a series of tax increases on the wealthiest americans. th bush era tax rates would be text ended for all single americans with incomes below $400,000 and couples with...
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cliff, while attitudes towards republicans are consistently bad and the blame and disapproval is only growing for them. it's costing them in the polls and at the polls this crisis of leadership, this consistent blocking that every obama has tried to do. it's really over a tax increase, and for what? it's really to stop primary challenges. that's what this is all about. i mean, it's really bringing the country to a standstill for their own political short term. >> "new york times" is talking about the urgency issue in all of this, and lacking urgency that we have witnessed. they say, yeah, with days left before the fiscal punch lands, both sides are exhibiting little sense of urgency. rather than to foster progress. perry is that the biggest thing, the primaries moving out of this and how everything looks back? >> i think there are two things going on. the first is democrats generally feel they won a man dade. they're not backing down -- the second thing is the primary issue. you have members of congress say last week there was a proposal to raise taxes, and a lot of republicans said i
cliff, while attitudes towards republicans are consistently bad and the blame and disapproval is only growing for them. it's costing them in the polls and at the polls this crisis of leadership, this consistent blocking that every obama has tried to do. it's really over a tax increase, and for what? it's really to stop primary challenges. that's what this is all about. i mean, it's really bringing the country to a standstill for their own political short term. >> "new york...
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we've been building up to this fiscal cliff and the deal finally came together late on new year's eve, and it took the vice president coming here to make the final sale to fellow democrats. biden had been negotiating with the top republican in the senate, and they've come together on a deal that keeps most people's taxes right where they have been, but it does set higher taxes for couples who will earn more than $450,000 a year. it will also put off for two months the across-the-board spending cuts that would have affected the military and most federal agencies. now, that will have an impact. it means that there will be future negotiations and likely future fights about how to deal with paying for a way to bring down the deficit by other kinds of cuts. that's been at the heart of this fight. now, today the house of representatives comes in, they cast a vote, and because the senate vote is so overwhelmingly bipartisan, 89-8, it's hoped that that will have influence in the house to at least get this deal done now with a chance to talk about some of these issues some more in the new cong
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i'm bret baier in washington covering the fiscal cliff issue as the senate democrats are meeting with vice president biden at this hour trying to finalize a deal. trying to move legislation forward that had been negotiated between vice president biden and senate republican leader, the minority leader mitch mcconnell. whether they can get the votes to pass the senate, whether that can then go to the house tomorrow and possibly get the votes to pass the thousand, those are all questions but one thing is clear, the u.s. is going technically over the fiscal cliff tonight set up at midnight. whether washington can stop the economic disaster that may come before wednesday when the markets would have the first chance to react to if something fell apart, that is really the question that the world is watching for. joining me now on the phone, chris stirewalt. you take on all of this as this back and forth has happened and what we are seeing tonight? >> bret, when we look back at how this started we think about the republicans coming back to town after the election, john boehner coming back and
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do they want to go off the fiscal cliff? go to facebook.com/newsnation to vote. that does it for us. i'm craig melvin in for tamron hall. "the cycle" up next and go skins. new years clutter is no match for someone with big ideas. with a new project in mind, some how-to knowledge to give us an edge, and more savings down every aisle. it only takes a few twists and turns for those bright ideas to make the new year even brighter. more saving. more doing. that's the power of the home depot. start fresh and save with hdx 20 gallon totes, a special buy at just $5.88 a piece.
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last minute talks in the final hours of the fiscal cliff talks. we'll follow all of it, msnbc, the place for politics. ♪ [ male announcer ] every time you say no to a cigarette, you celebrate a little win. nicoderm cq, the patch with time release smart control technology that acts fast and helps control cravings all day long. ♪ quit one day at a time with nicoderm cq. time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and if it finds one, you get refunded the difference. just use your citi card and register your purchase online. have a super sparkly day! ok. [ male announcer ] now all you need is a magic carriage. citi price rewind. start saving at citi.com/pricerewind. >>> right now on capitol hill, senate democrats and republicans are working on a deal to avert the fiscal cliff, but time is running out. they now have less than 30 hours to work it out. if we do go over the fiscal cliff
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will senate republicans embrace the latest framework for a fiscal cliff deal? also how failure to get a fiscal cliff deal could lead to a mortgage rate free fall. "piles of money" coming up. ♪ [ male announcer ] how could a luminous protein in jellyfish, impact life expectancy in the u.s., real estate in hong kong, and the optics industry in germany? at t. rowe price, we understand the connections of a complex, global economy. it's just onreason over 75% of our mutual funds beat their 10-year lipper average. t. rowe price. invest with confidence. request a prospectus or summary prospectus with investment information, risksfees and expenses to read and consider carefully before investing. why does my mouth feel dryer than i remember it to be? there are more people taking more medication, so we see people suffering from dry mouth more so. we may see more cavities, bad breath, oral irritation. a drmouth sufferer doesn't have to suffer. i would recommend biotene. the enzymes in biotene products help supplement enzymes that are naturally in saliva. biotene helps m
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we have to try to avoid the biggest dive that we could take off the fiscal cliff. >> republicans are blaming democrats. you've heard the line, washington doesn't have a revenue problem, we have a spending problem. i want to play this from senator john thune and get your reaction. >> even if the president got everything he wanted, it generates -- next year alone, so the question is, what do we do for the other 358 days of the year? we have to do something on the spending side of the equation. >> if we look at just the spending -- what cuts would you support? >> the president has put forward and agreed to speaker boehner -- in meeting the republicans more than halfway, he's agreed to a dollar in revenue to a dollar in spending cuts. i mean, hundreds of billions in spending cuts, we voted for a trillion in spending cuts, richard, last summer with no revenue at all when we agreed to the debt ceiling deal that triggered this fiscal cliff fiasco. so we have put hundreds of billions, and we're willing to put more than a trillion in spending cuts. the republicans are still really leaving the
we have to try to avoid the biggest dive that we could take off the fiscal cliff. >> republicans are blaming democrats. you've heard the line, washington doesn't have a revenue problem, we have a spending problem. i want to play this from senator john thune and get your reaction. >> even if the president got everything he wanted, it generates -- next year alone, so the question is, what do we do for the other 358 days of the year? we have to do something on the spending side of the...
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he told his fellow republicans he hoped to have a fiscal cliff recommendation soon. >> we will be working hard to see if we can get there in next 24 hours and so i am hopeful and optimistic. >> reporter: but the sticking point remains finding something that can make it through the house with enough support from republicans. >> it seems like the 250 threshold that the president proposed previously is unlikely to pass the house in its current form, and so without some sort of additional compromise there, it seems unlikely that we're going to get something done before the end of the year. >> susie: you know thanks for that report. i am just wondering from all of the reporting you have done, do you think we are better off with a badeal than no deal at all? >> you know susie when peopletal they are talking about a bad deal in political terms. frankly it's republicans that are most worried about the bad deal they have most leverage. the president has the most leverage. they are worried about a bad deal. any deal that gets us past the fiscal cliff is going to be seen as a good deal. >> susie: it
he told his fellow republicans he hoped to have a fiscal cliff recommendation soon. >> we will be working hard to see if we can get there in next 24 hours and so i am hopeful and optimistic. >> reporter: but the sticking point remains finding something that can make it through the house with enough support from republicans. >> it seems like the 250 threshold that the president proposed previously is unlikely to pass the house in its current form, and so without some sort of...
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is the most important meeting of the entire fiscal cliff saga. why and what can we expect to happen? >> it's the most important meeting, mara, because there is a chance, not saying it's a great chance, but a very -- it is very alive if you will that this bill could be struck down. the house republican conference is not totally sold on it. why? some conservative outside groups are against it. a lot of folks in the house republican caucus come from republican districts and are always worried about a primary challenger. speaker boehner, eric cantor have not been overly supportive so far. they reserve the right to amend it. there are three options. we could all hold hands and jump off into the deep end together. that would be the house republican conference approving of this bill, at least enough of them joining the democrats to move it forward. you could also see house republicans try to amend it. that's what tom cole is talking about on your air. he doesn't think that would happen and doesn't want that to happen but it certainly is a possibility if
is the most important meeting of the entire fiscal cliff saga. why and what can we expect to happen? >> it's the most important meeting, mara, because there is a chance, not saying it's a great chance, but a very -- it is very alive if you will that this bill could be struck down. the house republican conference is not totally sold on it. why? some conservative outside groups are against it. a lot of folks in the house republican caucus come from republican districts and are always...